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 So here's the scenario.

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I'm going to be a bank
robber, a bad guy,

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bank robber trapped in
a bank with hostages.

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You're going to be the hostage
negotiator that talks me out.

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Now, you have four restrictions.

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There are four things you
can't do in the negotiation,

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and I'll walk all
the way through this.

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I'll summarize it.

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I'll give you a chance
to ask questions.

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We won't dive in
until you're ready.

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 OK.

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 So there are four
things that you can't do.

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You cannot give me weapons.

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You can't give me
transportation.

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You can't give me
drugs or alcohol.

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And there's no sort of
hostage exchange allowed.

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You can't, say, offer a command
if I let people come out.

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Nobody could come in.

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People could only come out.

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When we get started, we'll
simulate being over the phone.

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You'll say, ring, ring.

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I'll answer, and that will
start the negotiation.

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All right, so if you're
ready, say, ring, ring.

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 Ring, ring.

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 I need a car in 60
seconds or she dies.

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 OK, let's just--

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I want to tell you
what my name is.

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My name's Pam, and I'm here
to help you get through this.

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What's your name?

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 I have no intention of
telling you that, Pam.

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You have 55 seconds.

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Why would I tell you that?

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 OK, look, I'm going to try
and get you what you need.

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 You're going to get me a car?

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Excellent.

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You've got 50 seconds to comply.

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 OK, I just want
to slow down and--

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 You can slow
down all you want.

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You've got 45 seconds.

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 OK, maybe I can get
you some food in there.

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 No.

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PAM: Everyone's--

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 I'm going to be out
of here in 35 seconds.

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What do I need food for?

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 Right, right.

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So I want you to
just take it easy.

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Just relax.

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 I'm taking it fine.

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PAM: We're going to get
through this together.

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 35 seconds.

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 I want to help you
get through this.

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INSTRUCTOR: I'm going to
get out of here alone.

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 OK, I'm not going to be able
to get you that that quickly,

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OK?

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 So you can get me a car.

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 We can talk about that.

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 No, you said you couldn't
get it that quickly.

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 Well, I think
it's impossible--

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INSTRUCTOR: --which means--

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 --to get it that quickly.

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 --you want me to kill her now.

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 No, I don't want
you to do that.

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 Yes or no on the car?

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 Look, if you kill
her, there's no way

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you're going to get anything.

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 Yes or no.

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 OK?

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There's nothing
you're going to get.

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 30 seconds.

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 There's nothing that--

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listen to me, if you
kill her, there's

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nothing that's going
to help you right now.

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INSTRUCTOR: You said--

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 I want to help you, OK?

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I want to help you.

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 Get the car.

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 I want to help you get
through this, all right?

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Look--

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 It's not me you're
helping, it's her.

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 I'm going to make sure
no one comes in there, OK?

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That's what I want
to make sure--

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 I already know
nobody's coming in.

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I'm going to start throwing
out bodies if they do.

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PAM: Well, I'll--

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 You got 27 seconds left.

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 Look, I want to resolve
this with you, OK?

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INSTRUCTOR: OK, give me the car.

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 Look, I want to see--

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 Car, yes or no?

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 What's going on today?

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 Yes or no?

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 What made you
go in there today?

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 I needed money.

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What do you think I
went into the bank for?

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 You needed money, OK.

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INSTRUCTOR: That's
where money is.

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 Well, money's better
than killing people, right?

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 That's up to you.

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 Getting you money is better
than letting you kill somebody.

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 You got 25 seconds.

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 Well, OK.

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Let's work on it.

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 OK?

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Is that a yes?

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 You're not going to get any--

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 Is that a yes?

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You said you'd work on it?

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 Look, yeah--

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 Yes or no on the car?

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 I'm going to
work on it for you.

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 What does that mean?

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 I'm going to--

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 What does that mean?

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 I'm going to try
to get you one.

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INSTRUCTOR: You're going to try?

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 I'm going to try
to get you one.

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 I'm going to try not to
kill her in 20 seconds,

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but who knows how
good try will get you?

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 Look, I don't want you--

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 You want her.

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Don't worry about me.

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 Yeah, I want her.

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No, you're not--

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 17 seconds.

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 I promise you, this
isn't going to end well

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for you if you kill her.

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 Oh, now you're threatening me.

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OK, 15 seconds.

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 Look--

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 You think you're going to keep
her alive by threatening me?

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Seriously?

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 OK, I misspoke.

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Why don't you just tell me
what you need the money for?

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 Why don't you just
give me the car?

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You've got 15 seconds left.

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 Where are you going
to go with the car?

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 I'm not telling you that.

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That's silly.

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 Where do you want to go?

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 Why would I tell you that?

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 You think if we give you a
car you're going to make it out

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of here safe?

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 Or she dies?

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 Oh, you're going
to take her with you

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everywhere you go for--

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 You want me to, I will.

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12 seconds.

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 Look, you're not going to
be able to get a car, OK?

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 You said not right now.

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How much time do you need?

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 We can get you
something maybe--

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 Tell me how much time.

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 --in an hour.

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 OK, in an hour, she dies.

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Now you're changing things.

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 I want you to tell me how
many people are in there.

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 You said you'd get
me a car in an hour,

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and now you say you can't
get me a car at all.

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Does that make you a liar?

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 I need some--

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 You're telling me I can't
rely on anything you say?

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 Look, I--

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 Five seconds.

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 I need some
guarantees from you

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that you're not going to
hurt anybody right now--

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 You never said nothing
about guarantees before.

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 --that you're not going
to hurt anybody in the next

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seven--

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 OK, we'll stop there.

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 That was a nightmare.

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That was awful.

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Why?

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Why?

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 All right, so
let's go back over,

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because you did some
stuff really well.

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 OK.

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 And your ideas are good.

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But you don't really know
how to implement the ideas.

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PAM: Execute-- yeah.

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 And then you got
yourself trapped.

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OK, to start off, you
gave me your name.

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That was awesome.

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 OK.

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 That was really good because
just your first name to start

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off with, it helps
me to understand

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there's a human being
on the other side.

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Now, what you wanted to do
after that is you wanted--

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PAM: I should have
got your name.

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 No, no, no.

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You should have let that go.

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My name's a precious commodity.

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If you try to get my name when
I'm bargaining quid pro quo,

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do you want to own me?

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 No.

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 Yeah.

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So you want to get in--

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you want to stay
out of bargaining.

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You want to stay in negotiation.

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 OK.

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 A lot of people
have a tendency

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to really get into
a lot of trouble

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and have it just go horrible
at about 90 seconds.

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You're well past that.

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You asked me a great question.

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What do you need the money for?

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What are you doing here?

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What do you need the money for?

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You really stopped the
clock entirely with that.

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That was a great move.

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 OK, good.

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 That what question--
what's the motivation?

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What's going on behind this?

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That's really where you want
to get into in negotiation.

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That's negotiating,
that's not bargaining.

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You're trying to find out what's
going on with the other side.

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So let's reverse the roles.

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 Oh no.

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 Do you want to
be the bank robber?

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 OK, sure.

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INSTRUCTOR: You
ready to pay me back?

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 Yeah.

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I don't think I'm going to be
able to do it as good as you.

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INSTRUCTOR: But just be mean.

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 OK, cool.

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 So I'm going to call in,
and we're going to talk.

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 OK, OK.

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 Ring, ring.

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 You need to get all
these cops out of here, OK?

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I can see them all.

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Get them out of here.

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I'm going to start
shooting people.

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Is that what you want?

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 It sounds like you
want to stay safe.

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 You want that on you?

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 It sounds like you
want to stay safe.

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 Yeah, I want to stay safe.

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Get them out of here.

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 All right, that's going
to be hard for me to do.

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In the meantime, how can I
make sure that you stay safe?

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 Get me a car.

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Get me something to
get me out of here, OK?

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I want a bus, and I'm going to
take all these people with me.

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 Sounds like you want
to make sure you live.

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 Yeah, I want to
make sure I live.

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I don't care about these people.

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I don't care.

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I just want to get out of here.

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 All right, sounds like you
want to see a life beyond this.

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 Yeah.

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Get me out of here.

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 What's this all about?

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 I'm trying to get
out of here alive.

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I don't want to kill these
people, but I'll do it.

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I'll do it.

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 I know this isn't what
you had in mind for today.

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How's this get started?

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How did you get here?

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 Look, I made a mistake, OK?

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I made a mistake.

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You need to help me
get out of here, OK?

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 Sounds like you
regret all this.

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 Yeah.

07:45.740 --> 07:49.295 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, I regret it.

07:49.295 --> 07:50.170 align:middle line:90%
 How'd you get here?

07:50.170 --> 07:51.010 align:middle line:90%
How'd this start?

07:51.010 --> 07:53.110 align:middle line:90%
 Just get me--

07:53.110 --> 07:54.340 align:middle line:90%
get me a car.

07:54.340 --> 07:55.460 align:middle line:90%
Get me out of here.

07:55.460 --> 07:57.610 align:middle line:84%
I'm still seeing
cops on the street.

07:57.610 --> 08:01.620 align:middle line:84%
 My job is to make sure
nothing happens to you.

08:01.620 --> 08:03.710 align:middle line:84%
 Well, tell these
cops to back off, then.

08:03.710 --> 08:05.850 align:middle line:84%
 All right, that's
going to be hard,

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but I can absolutely
guarantee you

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is nobody's going to make
any threatening gestures

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towards you.

08:11.370 --> 08:14.180 align:middle line:84%
 Well, I'm feeling threatened
right now with all these cops.

08:14.180 --> 08:16.430 align:middle line:84%
 All right, well, we're
trying to keep everybody away

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from the bank, also, so this
doesn't get out of hand.

08:20.130 --> 08:21.590 align:middle line:90%
 Well, get me out of here.

08:21.590 --> 08:24.010 align:middle line:90%
I need a car to get out of here.

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 They're out there to
make sure that people

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don't come running in on you.

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Do you want that?

08:30.520 --> 08:33.600 align:middle line:90%
 No, I don't want that.

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I don't want to kill these
people, but I'll do it too.

08:35.929 --> 08:37.640 align:middle line:90%
 You sound like you mean it.

08:37.640 --> 08:38.679 align:middle line:90%
 Yeah, I mean it.

08:38.679 --> 08:39.780 align:middle line:90%
 How'd we get here today?

08:39.780 --> 08:40.490 align:middle line:90%
How'd this start?

08:40.490 --> 08:41.407 align:middle line:90%
What's this all about?

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08:43.960 --> 08:46.600 align:middle line:90%
 I got to get--

08:46.600 --> 08:49.550 align:middle line:84%
 How'd you find yourself
in this position?

08:49.550 --> 08:54.960 align:middle line:84%
 Look, things didn't go the way
that I wanted them to go, OK?

08:54.960 --> 08:57.510 align:middle line:84%
And now I need to get
out of here, all right?

08:57.510 --> 08:59.140 align:middle line:90%
I need your help.

08:59.140 --> 08:59.640 align:middle line:90%
 Things--

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PAM: Are you going to help me?

09:01.750 --> 09:03.360 align:middle line:84%
 I'm here to
absolutely do everything

09:03.360 --> 09:05.318 align:middle line:84%
I possibly can to make
sure you don't get hurt.

09:05.318 --> 09:08.420 align:middle line:90%


09:08.420 --> 09:10.840 align:middle line:90%
Things didn't go well?

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This isn't the life
you had in mind.

09:14.260 --> 09:15.215 align:middle line:90%
 Yeah, but here I am.

09:15.215 --> 09:18.560 align:middle line:90%


09:18.560 --> 09:21.890 align:middle line:84%
How do I get you
out of there safely?

09:21.890 --> 09:25.820 align:middle line:84%
 You get me a car and
guarantee that no one's going

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to shoot at me on the way out.

09:27.250 --> 09:30.042 align:middle line:90%
I gotta get out of here, OK?

09:30.042 --> 09:31.750 align:middle line:84%
 You want to make
sure you survive this?

09:31.750 --> 09:33.520 align:middle line:90%
 Yeah.

09:33.520 --> 09:37.560 align:middle line:84%
 I want to make sure nothing
bad happens to you in the bank.

09:37.560 --> 09:38.060 align:middle line:90%
 OK.

09:38.060 --> 09:40.870 align:middle line:90%


09:40.870 --> 09:42.860 align:middle line:90%
Get me out of here.

09:42.860 --> 09:45.400 align:middle line:84%
 I'm working on getting
you out of there.

09:45.400 --> 09:49.210 align:middle line:84%
But I want to make sure it
doesn't get any worse either.

09:49.210 --> 09:53.510 align:middle line:84%
 Well, I could
send out somebody.

09:53.510 --> 09:57.240 align:middle line:84%
 That's a great
idea because that's

09:57.240 --> 09:59.740 align:middle line:84%
a first step towards making
sure this doesn't get any worse.

09:59.740 --> 10:00.945 align:middle line:90%
Who you going to send out?

10:00.945 --> 10:03.220 align:middle line:84%
 Well, I'll send out
one of the tellers.

10:03.220 --> 10:04.940 align:middle line:90%
 OK.

10:04.940 --> 10:05.600 align:middle line:90%
That's awesome.

10:05.600 --> 10:06.170 align:middle line:90%
That's amazing.

10:06.170 --> 10:07.295 align:middle line:90%
That's a really smart move.

10:07.295 --> 10:10.870 align:middle line:84%
That's a way for you to
basically stay in charge here.

10:10.870 --> 10:13.160 align:middle line:84%
 OK, I'll send out one
of the tellers then.

10:13.160 --> 10:16.460 align:middle line:90%
 All right, send a teller out.

10:16.460 --> 10:17.942 align:middle line:84%
And the next thing
I know, you're

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offering to send
a bank teller out.

10:19.400 --> 10:22.150 align:middle line:90%
 I know, I know.

10:22.150 --> 10:27.010 align:middle line:84%
You just were asking me,
like well, what could I do?

10:27.010 --> 10:28.450 align:middle line:90%
What could we do?

10:28.450 --> 10:31.990 align:middle line:84%
I wanted to be angry, and
I wanted to be frantic,

10:31.990 --> 10:37.000 align:middle line:84%
but you kept talking so slow
that it kept slowing me down.

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INSTRUCTOR: Right.

10:37.930 --> 10:40.180 align:middle line:84%
 And I wanted to be
threatening to you,

10:40.180 --> 10:44.860 align:middle line:84%
but you just kept being,
like, caring to me.

10:44.860 --> 10:47.260 align:middle line:84%
 What I wanted to
do on my end of that

10:47.260 --> 10:50.470 align:middle line:84%
when I was the negotiator was
make you feel that I was there

10:50.470 --> 10:53.920 align:middle line:84%
to collaborate with
you any way I possibly

10:53.920 --> 10:57.880 align:middle line:84%
could without really rejecting
your ideas or making you feel

10:57.880 --> 10:58.720 align:middle line:90%
rejected.

10:58.720 --> 11:00.520 align:middle line:84%
 Yeah, that's
what it felt like.

11:00.520 --> 11:03.810 align:middle line:84%
 All right, I'm
happy to hear it.

11:03.810 --> 11:04.478 align:middle line:90%
 Yeah.

11:04.478 --> 11:05.020 align:middle line:90%
I don't know.

11:05.020 --> 11:09.280 align:middle line:84%
So I didn't think-- yeah,
I didn't feel foolish.

11:09.280 --> 11:12.020 align:middle line:84%
I felt like you
were there to help.

11:12.020 --> 11:13.570 align:middle line:90%
Yeah.

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