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 All right.

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So in reality, I
shouldn't even be

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teaching a chapter on
bargaining because if you listen

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to everything else,
you've negotiated great,

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and you're not going
to need to bargain.

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The deal will have made itself.

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In those instances,
we do need to get down

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to brass tacks bargaining.

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Here's some techniques.

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The Ackerman System
is a bargaining model

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attributed to a gentleman
named Mike Ackerman.

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I was taught this
bargaining model

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when I was doing kidnapping
negotiations with the FBI.

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And they laid out basically,
you have a target price

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you want to come to.

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Once you've picked
out your target price,

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you're going to come in
at 65% of that price.

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You're going to plan on
making three raises to get

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to the price that you wanted.

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And the first raise is
going to be 20% raise,

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the next raise is
going to be 10%,

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the last raise is
going to be 5%.

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Each one of your raises are
decreasing increments by half.

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And then when you get
to the very last number,

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you make sure you throw
out an odd number,

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and you also throw in
some non-monetary object

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that you know the other
side doesn't want,

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but it makes them feel like
they've really tapped you out.

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They've taken every last dime.

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You know, they've fought
you tooth and nail.

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They've felt the
decreases in increments.

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They still feel like
they're winning.

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You come in with
the last number.

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It's an odd number.

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It seems like that you
scratched for every penny.

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And consequently, they
worked so hard to get there

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that they want to cut the deal.

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They're not going to renege.

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All right, so I'm trying to
buy a coffee table for $100.

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And that's what I want to pay.

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They're asking $150,
they're asking $200.

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They might be asking $250.

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It doesn't matter.

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I'm going to see what their
reaction is when I throw out

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my initial price.

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So I'm going to come in at
65% of where I want to end up.

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So I'm going to say, look,
you know, I got a price.

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I'll give you the price, but
you're not going to like it.

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I mean, it's going to be low.

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It's really going to be low.

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And I got a feeling that
when I give you this price,

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it's going to make
you really angry,

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and the last thing I
want to do is offend you.

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So I'm scared to
give you the price.

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Well, you're getting their
permission, you know.

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You're giving them some
emotional anchoring.

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What they're thinking,
like, this guy wants

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a coffee table for nothing?

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What's he going to give me,
$5.00 for the coffee table?

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They're going to
imagine something

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that's worse than what
you would ever throw out.

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So you finally
give me permission

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to give you the price.

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And I say, no, it's
going to make you angry.

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You know, I'm scared.

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I'm afraid to give
you this number.

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And they'll almost beg you
to give them the number.

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And then very apologetically,
you gotta say, $65.00.

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Now they're not going to
be happy with that price,

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but they asked you for it.

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They're not going to get
angry because you told them

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they were going to get
angry, and that diffused it.

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And you were deferential
the whole time.

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I mean, they feel powerful.

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You know, they feel bad for you.

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But after you throw your
number, then your next move

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has got to be tactical empathy.

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It's got to be the
application of empathy.

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It's got to be apology.

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They're going to
say, well, you know,

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that's not what I had in mind.

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You gotta do better than that.

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I mean, that's ridiculous.

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If they're a
seasoned negotiator,

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they're give you the flinch.

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They're gonna go, oh my
god, it's ridiculous.

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It's horrible.

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And that's where you gotta
ply them, say, you know,

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I'm so sorry.

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You know, it's horrible.

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I can see that
I've offended you.

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And you're asking
a reasonable price,

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and I'm being ridiculous.

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And you just gotta
continue to hit them

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with versions of empathy.

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And you gauge their reaction.

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You know, you've got to push
them every step of the way

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because when you get to the
number that you've settled at,

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you need them to execute.

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You need them to be
happy with that number.

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So the next point is
you're not budging off

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your number until they
come off their number.

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Whatever amount of money they
come off of their number,

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then you've got to be grateful.

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Oh, you know, thank you.

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That was generous.

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You gotta enhance the
positive emotions.

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You know, they feel
like they've given in.

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You don't want them
to regret giving in.

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You tell them that
you appreciate

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that they were generous and
congratulate him on that.

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Now your next number
is going to be $85.

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They're going to feel like
that's still not where they

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want to be, but they're going to
feel a sense of accomplishment

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that you've come
from $65 to $85.

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And again, you gotta apologize.

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I'd like to give
you another number.

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I mean, I've worked
really hard at this.

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It's been difficult
for me to get to this.

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You know, as a matter
of fact, I gotta

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go back and check my finances
before I get this number.

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I gotta check with the people.

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I'm not sure I can cover this.

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So you've thrown out your $85.

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They're still
fairly disappointed,

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but they feel like
now they're hungry.

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They're making progress.

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You know, they feel that
the process with you

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is making progress.

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And as long as people
are making progress,

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it enhances their ability
to stay in the deal.

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Now your next move is at $95.

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Now they're going to feel
a sense of accomplishment.

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But they're going to know that
that last move that you made

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was smaller than the first one.

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Always increase by
decreasing increments.

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Always.

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You've got to manage the raises.

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Your next raise at $95.

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Now you go through the
whole scenario again,

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you know, the whole
dramatic scenario.

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The application of
empathy, the recognition

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that they were generous,
the recognition that you're

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probably making them angry.

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After $95, your last
move's at the number

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that you're going to give.

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The number's gotta
be an odd number.

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Everybody likes odd numbers.

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It's got to come
out reluctantly.

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If you had planned
on spending $100,

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then you really need
to come in at $97.43.

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If you have the
opportunity, ask them

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for a piece of
paper and a pencil

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and start writing numbers down.

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It doesn't matter
what you write down.

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Write down your birthday.

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Write down today's date.

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Write down how much you weigh.

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You know, make a show that
you're working really hard.

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You're tapping the
resources, where

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they're going to feel like
they worked really hard for it.

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They're going to
feel like they've

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tapped into your last dime.

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They're probably going
to try to take one more

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move at you to get
you off that number,

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and that's when you go, like,
ah, you know, ah, you know,

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I've got a really nice jacket.

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Would you like my jacket?

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Would you like the
shirt off my back?

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Effectively that's what
you're doing, you know.

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But you're playing into
the human nature aspects

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here, which is a little
bit of drama play.

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I realize but these are
people with emotions

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on the other side.

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Even sociopaths have emotions.

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So whoever's on
the other side, you

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need to make them feel a
sense of accomplishment

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that this was a victory,
a hard won victory.

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They got you there
every step of the way.

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They felt the brakes coming
on the situation when

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each move was
less, until finally

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that odd number came out
there, and then the shirt

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off your back, whatever it is.

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And if they're going
to make the deal,

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they'll make it there because
they worked so hard for it.

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A lot of people are told
go first and go high.

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I think that's a bad
idea because it's

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forgoing the opportunity to
gather information first.

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I'm going to want to know
where you're coming from.

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When you throw a price
out and how you throw out,

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it's he's going to give me a
lot of information about you.

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And that's information
that I want.

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I love information.

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Every bit of information
I get in a negotiation

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makes me smarter
every step of the way.

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So if you go first, I
get information on you.

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You haven't gotten any
information on me .

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If somebody is really
pushing you to go first,

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it's also an opportunity
to pivot the terms.

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You can say, all right, so I'll
be happy to give you a number.

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Let's set that aside
for a few minutes

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and let's talk about
what it's going

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to take to make a great deal.

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I mean, what looks like
a great deal to you?

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What else do you
have to have in order

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to make any price that
I give you a good price?

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It's always good to prepare
some things beforehand so

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that you're not caught off guard
in the moment trying to think

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of what those things might be.

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And when you start to
prepare that list beforehand,

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realize that it's really
a brainstorming list.

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It's to trigger some thoughts.

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You really want to
engage in brainstorming

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with the other side because
nearly every circumstance, even

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in a one off
negotiation, there's

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going to be some stuff that
they could throw in that you

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might not know that they have.

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And if you engage in a
collaborative brainstorming

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session, between
the two of you, you

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may come up with some ideas,
again, to make a great deal.

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Yeah, you can use this when
you're buying your car.

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You can set the price off
to the side for the moment

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because there's always going to
be other inducements that they

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want to add and to get
you to make that deal.

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You know, what kind of
follow-up service do you want?

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What are they willing to
throw in at this point in time

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to try to get their price?

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They're probably
going to be a lot more

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flexible on the other terms,
on the follow-up service.

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Free car when you come in
for its routine maintenance.

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Do you get a rental car to
drive around while you've

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got your car in their shop?

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What are the other
maintenance add-ons

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that they might be willing
to throw in to make the deal?

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And that's actually
a really good move

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because people
can get so focused

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on price that they forget that
it's going to be the terms that

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make the deal.

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The price will break
the deal, but the deal

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is made on the strict terms.

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Well, setting a
range is a great way

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to not exactly name
price first also.

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You can do a range of what's
going on in the market.

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You can do a range of what
you might be willing to pay.

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Understand that whenever
you throw out a range,

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the other side is going
to settle on the end

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that most favors them.

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Then I gotta
compromise and meet you

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in the middle of that range.

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You threw out a
range hoping they

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come in and pick the
number in the middle

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because they're
trying to be nice.

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That's not going to happen.

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They're going to pick the end
on that range that favors them.

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You better be willing
to accept that.

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If you come off of
that, then they're

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going to be able to
accuse you of bad faith

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bargaining for good
reason because you

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gave the impression if you
threw that number, that you'd

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take it.

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But a range is
going to be dictated

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by two things, what's
going on in the market

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and what you can pay.

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What you can pay may
not line up with what's

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going on in the market.

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And there's always a possibility
that other terms still

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might make your number work.

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And that's why the brainstorming
with your counterpart

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is extremely important because
there may be something really

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valuable that you
could do that's not

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reflected in the market.

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Great collaboration,
it creates success

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for both sides in the
future is always valuable.

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So understand what
your ranges are,

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what the market ranges
are, and then go out

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and try to make a great deal.

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An anchor is a price
that you throw out

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that's quite some distance
from where you expect to land.

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So if you want to pay
$100 for something,

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I may throw out right off
the bat that I can pay $20.

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I'm going to throw something
out that's quite some distance,

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gives me a lot of
room to maneuver.

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Makes you feel like you won when
you get me to my actual price.

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So you're going to
get a lot of advice

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that you should anchor extreme.

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You should go high,
you should go low.

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And people are going to tell
you over and over again that's

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going to give you better deals.

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What it's really going to do
is make a lot of deals go away.

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The terms make the deal.

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Make great deals,
don't extreme anchor,

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and you're going to go
a lot farther and have

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a lot more people doing
business with you,

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and you will not drive
deals away from the table.

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I'm more concerned with
the emotional anchor,

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the emotional
reaction to my price.

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If I go with a high
price with no warning,

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the emotional reaction from
you is going to be negative.

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Negative reactions
leave a toxic residue

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that, by and large, long term,
are bad for relationships.

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Now on the other hand, I
will characterize my number

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before I throw it out because
I want you to actually

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be relieved when I
give you my number.

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So I'm going to say,
look my number is high.

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Don't expect anything
other than that to be high.

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It's going to be higher than
you expect, probably more

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than you plan to pay,
maybe more than you have.

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Now by the time I
drop that number,

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you're not going to
overreact to the number.

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It may still be more
than you plan to pay,

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but you're not going
to be mad about it.

